i am from the new york area. i had to look into this fascination with guns. i am not worried about them. i am worried about those that fall into the cracks. one of the biggest problems we have is closing the gun show loophole. it is not even a loophole, it is a wide open area where someone can go in. you have plenty of federal licensed dealers there. but those that have a criminal intent, they will go to the tables where there will say, because there has been a lot of undercover drug the country i'm trying to find out the solutions to these problems, and what we found is you can go out to a table, a private buyer, and you can buy any kind of gun you want and not go through background check. number one, it is not fair to the legitimate business owners that are following the law. but you have these people and many may just want to sell some of the guns they have too many of to make a little money, but you know what? everybody should be going for a background check. everybody. no one should be exempted from it. >> how is it there -- until this point, you have no